In this episode, we're joined by Ben Klutsey of the Mercatus Center to discuss pluralism, politics, and parenting. Ben shares his background and personal experiences that fueled his passion for pluralism, including his childhood experiences in Germany contrasted against his warm welcome in Appleton, Wisconsin. He delves into his academic and professional journey exploring pluralism, informed by luminaries like John Izu and through extensive conversations with scholars and public intellectuals. The conversation also touches on how pluralism can be practiced through innovative approaches like the Pluralist Lab and the importance of fostering virtues and curiosity in children. Ben's hopeful outlook on America's resilient spirit and the potential for fostering a more inclusive and understanding society wraps up our discussion.
00:00 Introduction and Guest Background
01:46 Early Experiences with Pluralism
06:10 Academic and Professional Journey
07:56 The Pluralism Summit and Practical Applications
12:09 Fostering Curiosity and Engagement
14:56 The Pluralist Lab Explained
17:26 Challenges in Political Dialogue
27:17 The Role of Competition and Cooperation
28:14 Understanding Political and Affective Polarization
28:48 Breaking Down Meta Perceptions
30:02 The Complexity of Human Interactions
32:21 Parenting and Virtues
33:52 Balancing Virtues in Society
36:20 The Importance of Pluralism
40:39 Feedback and Perspective Taking
49:06 Optimism and Hope for the Future
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